RE: Reverse Engineering Mailing List

From: KDenton@williams-int.com
Date: Fri May 28 1999 - 22:07:22 EEST


AR,

First, if you never start the list and ONLY gather responses of those who
may or may not want to be on the list then nothing will ever be done! I am
not neutral on weather the list should be I think that if you have the means
and the interest then YOU should start the list. It is not that hard to
start one if you have access to an email server!

Second, When the RP-ML started there wasn't that many of us around and yet
is has grown to be quite a group of people! There was no poll as to weather
we would or would not like to have the list! Someone had a great idea and
let it be known and it grew! As far as there being interest you will only
know if you get folks, and yes a majority may be other then those that are
part of the RP-ML we are after all a very small and select group kind of
like oh...lets say a cult!

As far as moderating a list I think that we should never do such a thing.

Karl Denton

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Anshuman Razdan [SMTP:razdan@asu.edu]
        Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 5:19 PM
        To: RP Mailing List
        Subject: Reverse Engineering Mailing List

        I am sorry if this is being posted again - I am not sure it made it
out the
        first time. I apologise if it is a repeat

        AR

        ------------------------

        Rafael,
                Thanks for your input. I have so far recieved 14 yeas and 2
nays (including
        this one) and one neutral (Karl Denton since he didnt say yes or no
but
        responded in a neutral fashon - atleast thats how I took it). I
appreciate
        all of you (on both sides of the aisle) for taking the time to let
your
        views known. Please keep the debate alive.

        I will respond to Karl's and your email in one posting here.

        First, I am not against RP. I will NOT stop reading RPML if there is
RE-ML
        since I have interest in both areas. So its not a matter of choosing
one or
        the other.

        I understand the proliferation of mailing lists. Its much like
Journals and
        technical magazines. Its hard to read all of them and keep track of
every
        development. One has to strike a balance. Should CAD, Tooling, RP,
RE,
        Graphics, visualization, modeling, metrology, manufacturing, (and I
can go
        on) be part of the same list. Dont most of us do more than one
element of
        the list I mention above? So, Rafael, I dont find that argument
compelling
        enought to keep RP and RE together. Believe me I can argue the case
from
        either side - heck thats why I havent started one yet - curse of
being an
        academic I guess :)

         I have learnt and continue to learn a great deal from RP-ML. This
should
        not be seen as a rebellion against RP-ML. If there is RE-ML then
some of the
        postings may be even cross listed. Todays world is multi-diciplinary
and
        many of us are involved in projects that take us beyond our narrow
foucii or
        training. For example RP and Medical communities working together,
Reverse
        Engineering and Arnthropology and Archaeology and so on ...
Therefore its a
        fact of life that our quest of knowledge and learnig takes us to
more than
        one source.

        To respond to Karl - I dont want to start something if there is no
interest.
        Its not a ideological/religious cult movement. This, like RP-ML
should be
        off the people, by the people and for the people. Some one at SME
conference
        suggested I monitor this list i.e. every posting be approved or
moderated by
        me and I struck that idea down. Who am I to censor people's views.
Besides I
        dont have that kind of time but even if I had all the time in the
world, I
        still wouldnt want to stifle a democratic list. Like RP-ML if you
post some
        thing inappropriate or offcolor people will regulate the list and
let you
        know.

        There is always room in any list but does it make sense to start a
new one?
        I will continue to accept people's views and debate the issues.

        Thanks again.

        AR

        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi]On
Behalf Of
        Rafael Santillan
        Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 8:10 AM
        To: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
        Subject: RE: Reverse Engineering Mailing List

        Anshuman

        I think that the people that does RE does as well RP (at least
many of
        them), in fact the ones that are
        involved in RE does this with the maind to do later RTooling. So
maybe we
        should consider to create later a Rapid tooling list and a CAD list
just
        for the ones that does only modeling. This increasing numeros of
list
        will reduce the numbers of listers in each one, and this does affect
the
        richness of a list where many problems are solve under different
point of
        view.

        If you analyze our current list, is rather small or at least the
number of
        people that contribute to it.
        There is still a lot of space in this list not just for RP but for
RE and
        RT topics in which the most of us are interested to hear about and
to
        contribute.

        However as Karl said if you want to create your own list because
the RP is
        not of interest for you, dont ask anybody (explorers does not ask
which
        track to follow they are making the track) get your self a server
and
        just doit, if there is people interested only in RE you will find
what you
        are after if not welcome back to this great forum.

        best of luck

        
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