RE: [rp-ml] free STL Files and other things we wish for in the new year

From: The Creature Company <>
Date: Tue Jan 05 2010 - 16:27:28 EET

I worked at a studio that was scanning porn actresses. They were creating
stl's and then reproducing their bodies with large format milling in
provocative positions for action figures and life size silicone sex dolls. I
am locally involved in youth organizations and quickly switched jobs. J


But, I am bidding now on scanning some articles that are used for fine art
applications. My main clients are fine artists from the entertainment


One of the items I will be scanning is the gold award winning "Medusa"
sculpture from the Spectrum 16 book. I will be producing a stl for either
large format milling or smaller scale objet fabs,



Lino P. Stavole



The Creature Company



cell: 661-433-5283



From: [] On Behalf
Of David Celento
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [rp-ml] free STL Files and other things we wish for in the new


As a bit of a lurker on this list, I just want to say that I applaud this


While I make no judgement on the pron implications, it is wonderful to note
that the sharing of a (controversial) file has stimulated a real reaction in
terms of dialogue and speculation.


Extending various permutations of the logic presented might suggest that
three dimensional reproductions of people (clothed or otherwise) might
someday incentivize people to adopt 3D reproduction primarily because of the
value and ease assigned to reproduction. Much like what photography did in
the mid 19th century-with all the attendant consequences and benefits-this
ultimately makes for cultural growth and advancement. The real
technological intrigue is in the speed and resolution of capture (which will
likely be an inevitable consequence of computational increases in speed,
combined with miniaturization) as well as the same for physical production.
When gazing at unsmiling photos from the 19th century, it is difficult for
us to realize 1.5 centuries later that this was merely a result of lengthy
exposure times-people were not really dismal then, despite the lack of
velcro, were they? ;-)


Imagine capturing one's daughter in exquisite detail as she flips through
the air off a high dive, or one's grandson as he clears a pole vault, or
one's dog leaping for a frisbee. Sure there will be a fantasy component that
some are drawn to, but it seems to me that a whole different way to consider
and cherish any event will likely be more commonplace than we imagine,
regardless of the venue.. Fast forward 500 years and this entire
speculation may be met with the perhaps inevitable-Duh! (Assuming anyone is
around to hear it!)


Personally, my forecast also leans towards the eventual 3D printing of
environments (complete with wiring and plumbing) that are entirely
recyclable. The desktop is exciting, the neighborhood is equally


Peace, Happiness and Innovation to all this New Year...


David Celento


Assistant Professor, Architecture: Digital Design / Digital Fabrication

Penn State: Stuckeman School of Architecture & Landscape Architecture 814.321.5229 mobile


On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:37 PM, G. Sachs wrote:

OK, Rachael, but what about just simulating your new device - virtually - on
a computer (which I am now doing more and more)? You can't simulate a full
scale new wind turbine or IC engine even after you build your small RP
model. Wouldn't virtual modeling and full dynamic and material simulation of
new devices (including cell phones) trump even RP in the near future? Maybe
young people should just skip RP and go straight to computer rendering and
simulation? Note sure, but I know there was just WAY TOO much hyping about
RP in the beginning (and much of this by people who have since left the
field for greener pastures) and a lot of "far out" prognostication about how
every home owner would make their own parts to repair their appliances. Who
do you know that still fixes their own cars and appliances (the way they did
way before RP existed)?

Sorry, I'm I skeptic when it comes to people choosing exertion (mental or
physical) over pure entertainment.

G. Sachs


From: Rachel Park <>
To: G. Sachs <>
Cc: rp-ml <>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:42:59 PM
Subject: Re: [rp-ml] free STL Files and other things we wish for in the new

I find myself agreeing and disagreeing with various aspects of both of the
last two posts.

Essentially the "cheap" 3D printer is already here, and it is a capable one
for concept development. The RapMan (not one of the excellent open source
projects) is well under the $5000 price tag that has been on many people's
wish lists over the last couple of years. What is missing is the "killer
app" (sexual or otherwise, hopefully otherwise). The RapMan does not come
close to the more refined processes now available for production etc, but it
is within the reach of any company looking for entry level access to the
technology, that want to improve their product development programmes and
generate multiple prototypes quickly, easily and cheaply. While I agree with
much of the ethos of G Sach's post and the unfortunate throw away culture we
frequently encounter, and the average attention span he refers to generally
resembles that of a knat, I do not necessarily agree that cheap is bad or
that it equates to short-lived. Cheap can also mean accessible - to anyone,
including young and enquiring minds that may not otherwise be engaged by
such technology! Putting affordable machines, with affordable consumables
into the hands of children as young as 5 is an enlightened approach, and
made possible by the 'cheap' price tag for schools with limited funding. The
pay-off may take a little time, but I will wager it will be worth it. The
first primary schools in the UK are in receipt of this machine. I am no
longer of the opinion that every household will one day have its own 3D
printer (yes, I was carried along on that wave for a while), but I would not
be too surprised if we get to a point in time when designers, engineers and
manufacturers will ask their predecessors how on earth they ever developed
ideas without one!

Best wishes to all for 2010

Rachel Park | RP Editorial Services
t: 07515 741188

On 4 Jan 2010, at 20:11, G. Sachs wrote:

> So what kinds of "great" things would consumers do with their dirt-cheap
RP machines? What they do with their studio grade still and video cameras?
What they do with their Cray-supercomputer class computers (which I would
have killed for in the 70's)? No, I think you may have too much optimism and
faith for how people end up using powerful tools (like TV) and how long
their interest in such things lasts. My guess is that the 'attention span'
for cheap RP machines would be about 1-month (in the 21st century) - then on
to the next 'cheap thrill'. Cheap is not what is really needed to get
increased interest in RP - new visions about what is possible, especially in
terms of creating (real, meaningful and well paying) jobs, may be much more
important. I'm kind of tired of cheap thrills (and conferences), it may be
time for everyone to get back to work and really 'do something' (as Steve
Jobs might say).
> G. Sachs
> From: George W. Hart <>
> To:
> Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:57:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [rp-ml] Detroit Bomber STL File
> To extend Marshall's point, I'll opine that it wouldn't necessarily be a
bad thing if some killer app involving human sexuality is what it takes to
get the economies of scale jump started, so that RP machine prices drop into
the consumer appliance price range.
> (But let's *not* brainstorm ideas for such apps here on this forum.)
> George
> P.S. My coolest RP sculpture yet: (kid-safe, don't worry)
> Marshall Burns wrote:
> > Very interesting comment, Greg. Given the history of cave drawing,
marble sculpture, painting on canvas, the printing press, photography, video
tape, the Internet, and every other communication medium known to man and
woman, there is no question that the popular advent of fabbers will come
along with applications in pornography, both legal and illegal. In ten or 15
years, we'll probably have prosecutors across the country arresting high
school kids for 3D sexting. (Don't trust the timing of my predictions;
they've been dreadfully off before.)

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