# Re: Some reliable equations for RT

From: Bill Richards (brich@deltasearchlabs.com)
Date: Wed Feb 06 2002 - 15:54:50 EET

Hi, Molly,

Interesting question! The answer will be just as interesting and will take
many people to answer it correctly. It will also depend in what context you
want this question answered.

Look at a cheetah, the fastest animal on Earth. It expends an enormous
amount of energy in order to catch just one meal. As a result of this
expenditure a cheetah can starve to death even if it is hunting on a regular
basis, if it is hunting animals it has to chase down over long distances. So
in spite of their speed, a cheetah will frequently ignore prey it could
potentially chase down or even give up a chase if it goes too far.

Humans are no different. But when we find a task that is too difficult, we
build tools to enhance our ability to get the job done. Want to have a
better spear to hunt with? Put a stone arrowhead on it. Stone isn't good
enough? melt metal and make a metal arrowhead. Need to dig through rock to
make more arrowheads? Make a tool that will cut through the rock better.
Want to go to the moon? Build a rocket.

A rapid prototyping machine is simply a tool that helps us improve the
development of products. But rapid prototyping does not begin and end with a
machine that generates physical objects -- it is a process. To make any
process work well, you need someone who understands that process from
beginning to end to manage the workflow. This person will need to have an
understanding of a wide range of skills in order to coordinate what needs to
be done.

A business functions the same way as does any animal. In order to survive
and thrive, the business needs to perform its function with the least amount
of expenditure. Often enough, we do replace people with machines, and costs
go down, the business survives. But there are certain skills that cannot be
replaced by a machine. It is not the hammer that builds the house, it is the
carpenter that wields the hammer that builds the house.

Too often, a rapid prototyping machine is looked upon as a labor replacer.
"Get a prototyper, and you won't need as many people in the tool room!"
Nothing is further from the truth. What the RP machine does is enhance the
development of new products and technologies, but it requires someone to
work that tool properly. If anything, it may require one or more workers in
the tool room to be retrained to know other skills to make it work right.
But if definitely won't replace those people. And the better they know how
the machine and the process works, the better they will work that process.

Businesses do have a tendency to try consider the position of "rapid
prototyping technician" as an unskilled labor, and try to hire people whose
skills are not up to the true task. Ask any RP service bureau what they
think, and I am willing to bet that their answer will be quite the opposite.
Someone most successful with managing the RP process will understand not
just how the RP machine works, but be familiar with the issues of 3D design,
and then the post processes such as molding and casting.

That requires skill and experience. It also helps to know how things work.

__________________

Bill Richards
Delta Search Labs
T: 617-551-4615
F: 617-551-4651

----- Original Message -----
From: "mepstein" <mepstein@temple.edu>
To: "Lamar Davidge" <lamar.davidge@airmail.net>; <rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: Some reliable equations for RT

> Hello,
> I am new to this list and I wanted to introduce myself. My name is Molly
> Epstein, I am art student and am very interested in rapid prototyping
> processes. I don't know if this list gets philosophical or if it just
> technical, but it seems pretty informal and welcoming. This post from
Lamar
> Davidge made me think of a lot of things that I believe to be a really big
> problem in my experience with people. My school is the only college that
I
> know and it is what I am responding to, so bare with me but I really feel
that
> the next generation of students coming out of great art schools really do
not
> know the fundamental requirements of making things work well, and using
tools
> and machines correctly, not just making mistakes but really not
understanding
> the way things work. It seems that we are rushed and pushed away from
> learning how things work, or how to do something with the best
craftsmanship
> and quality. How do any of you feel about this? Have any of you seen a
> digression in quality and craftsmanship throughout your time doing what
you
> are doing?
> -Molly
>
>
>
> Will,
> >
> > You forgot to mention that tool life is also affected by the ability
of
> >the employees who are responsible for running the tool. I have seen some
> >very simple tools ruined on the first shot due to mistakes, a 150 ton
press
> >closing on an aluminum or epoxy tool can wreak havoc, not to mention what
> >injecting at 2500psi, instead of 350 psi, can do to a fragile tool. Also
> >epoxy is very strong, but if you drop it on the floor with the core side
> >down it wont last long. The best constructed tool, with the best possible
> >design, wont last long if you dont have people who are skilled running
it.
> >
> >Lamar Davidge
> >-------Original Message-------
> >
> >From: Pattison, Will
> >Date: Friday, February 01, 2002 06:35:11 PM
> >To: rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
> >Subject: RE: Some reliable equations for RT
> >
> >in my experience, the only equation that can be used to determine shot
life
> >in a rapid tool is something like:
> >
> >tool life is inversely proportional to part complexity, inversely
> >proportional to how many parts you need, inversely proportional to how
much
> >your customer is willing to spend, inversely proportional to how fast
they
> >need parts, directly correlated to the material they want, and directly
> >proportional to the real toolmaking knowledge that goes into design of
the
> >rapid tool.
> >
> >i'd be curious to see any mathematical model that effectively takes all
that
> >into account.
> >
> >will pattison, skeptic
> >product development
> >ignition
> >plano, texas
> >www.ignitioninc.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Chang-Shik Min [mailto:mcs9413@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:23 AM
> >To: rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
> >Subject: Some reliable equations for RT
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear Rapid Tooling specialists:
> >
> >Hello...how are you today ? I have survived this field of RT research
since
> >1994.
> >Based on statistics,probability and stochastics,I have been trying my
best
> >to simplify all the RT business processes,especially for quoting and
process
> >
> >control.
> >Meanwhile,I have recently come up with some highly reliable empirical
> >equations for tool (which is made by RT methods)life estimation,part cost
> >estimation for low-mid volume production from RT molds.
> >Is there any one who has ever tried to make some empirical equations for
RT
> >?
> >Any comment you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
> >TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> >http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >