RE: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?

The thought of people actually getting their news and information from blog sites which have no accountability, really worries me but scares me more.

John Mullen
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From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi] On Behalf Of Taylor, Tracy L PWR
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:41 PM
To: rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
Subject: RE: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?

Here is an interesting point of view on why oil is still flowing in the Gulf.

http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/bombshell-expose-the-real-reason-the-oil-still-flows-into-the-gulf-of-mexico

The only trouble is that with so many sources it would take quite a while to check them all. Not sure I believe the conspiracy, but it is food for thought.

With all the creative people doing RP there is probably a solution to be had even if RP was never involved. Bright ideas come from sharp people. It's surprising to me that they haven't got a Red Adair for broken pipes on the ocean floor. It's not like this is the first time.

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From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi] On Behalf Of G. Sachs
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:56 PM
To: Bagley, Jeffrey K HS; rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
Subject: Re: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?
Again, Jeffrey, you are ignoring the depth and pressures down there. I a lot of the ideas coming in to BP (though why they have to go through them at all, I don't understand or agree with) forget this very important parameter to the problem. There really are no super-simple solutions for this. BP has said there are NO quick fixes, but I still hold out hope there might be 1-2. If we could get three astronauts back from the moon during Apollo 13, I think we can do this as well. Then again, we placed a lot more faith in our scientist and engineers back then, and also gave them a lot more resources to work with. America, really does seem to be in decline sometimes - this may be one of those times.

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From: "Bagley, Jeffrey K HS" <jeffrey.bagley@hs.utc.com>
To: Carl Dekker <carl.dekker@met-l-flo.com>; G. Sachs <sachsg@sbcglobal.net>; rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 3:33:25 PM
Subject: RE: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?
All,

Perhaps high technology might not be the answer. The problem is after all pretty basic, an open pipe leaking fluid. Why not try a pretty basic solution. Perhaps something like a wooden telephone pole ground with a shallow angle to a point on one end and on the other end install a metallic cap that would allow the pole to be pile driven into the pipe. This temporary fix might stop or slow the leakage enough to allow time for a more robust and permanent solution.

Jeff Bagley

From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi] On Behalf Of Carl Dekker
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:53 PM
To: G. Sachs; rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
Subject: RE: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?

All,

My first thoughts would be autonomous vehicles with interchangeable/cargo filtration type devices capable of separating and containing the oil that is floating in the water at, and below the surface. I can't help but imagine that this disaster will spread with the currents ultimately destroying and enormous amount of marine ecology that will take decades to repair. The long term impacts of this type of devastation is mind-boggling. Every time I think of it, I feel bad to be part of the human race. And yes, this idea is FREE!!! Please take it!

Time is not on our side with this one! I truly hope they can start the repair process SOON!

P.S. I hope they already have a plethora of ideas for stopping the flow!

Thank you,

Carl Dekker
dekker@met-l-flo.com
Phone: (630) 409-9860 Ext 227

From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi] On Behalf Of G. Sachs
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:19 AM
To: rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
Subject: [rp-ml] How could RP & RM help in solving BP's Gulf Catastrophe?

I was wonder how various RP processes, including AM, might help in the Gulf oil disaster. I don't expect the "geniuses" at BP (or even in the government) to have spent much time thinking about that one. I have at least one idea, and thought it might be a good way to RM a higher profile.

First suggestion I have:
Use scanners to scan the badly cut wellhead and then create a CAD model of the opening. Make a perfectly mating pipe joint that can have a rubber seal attached to it. Use rapid prototyping in combination with rapid casting to create this joint. This could be tried before trying to make another better cut (and might be faster). And - by the way, BP - this idea isn't free, if you don't already have it in your little "suggestion box" of free ideas (that you and your buddies in the government won't release to the public). I am sure at this time of crisis, BP likes nothing better than getting all those helpful free suggestions and volunteers. Poor BP, they need all the free help they can get, I guess.

G. Sachs
Paradyme Systems U.S.A.
Received on Wed Jun 09 00:08:19 2010