From: Ron Clemons (rclemons@harvest-tech.com)
Date: Tue Oct 15 2002 - 16:24:49 EEST
Complexity doesn't affect cost.....unless you factor its impact on scan
time/build time. Would you charge the same price for a 5 inch (Z) build
that took 10 hours build as you would for a 5 inch (Z) build that took 30
hours to build? Build rate can vary drastically from part to part, so if
machine time matters.....
...............................................
Ron Clemons
Harvest Technologies
www.harvest-tech.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Hague" <R.Hague@lboro.ac.uk>
To: "Billett Mike" <mike.billett@volvo.com>; "'Rp-Ml (E-mail)"
<rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: [-0.70] RE: Price idea for a resin/plastic model
> Mike
>
> If you're going for an RP-made plastic model, the complexity of the part
> should have little or no bearing on the cost of the model (- apart from
> clean up times.) Unlike conventional manufacturing (like injection
moulding,
> for example), the additive manufacturing techniques are unique in that
they
> do not distinguish complexity, so effectively you can get the shape for
> free - the main factors influencing cost are build volume and build
height.
>
> Many regards
> Richard
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi]On
> Behalf Of Billett Mike
> Sent: 15 October 2002 07:27
> To: 'Rp-Ml (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Price idea for a resin/plastic model
>
>
> Many many thanks to this list for being so useful when it came to finding
> out some information about having a model made up.
>
> However, an observation rather than a moan... whilst I understand that
the
> complexity of the part and accuracy we require will steer the cost of the
> model, also that I was extremely vauge about my description of the part. I
> have recieved "ball park" figures ranging from $275 USD to $6000 USD!
Quite
> a spread wouldn't you say?
> Admittedly the cheapest quotes were for polystyrene with a hard
(durable?)
> coating and also as below 3DP (is this the same technique?), rather than a
> true resin or plastic model.
>
> The bulk of quotes however fell into the $600-700USD range.. and so I'll
> assume that these are something close to where we would end up.
>
> I had a couple of quotes that were "1000-2000 USD" and also some at
> "5000-6000USD".. although these ("fantasy quotes" as I perhaps incorrectly
> duped them) could well be extremely accurate and from companies that are
> well versed in the complexity of these type of castings that we are
working
> with. I am also aware that as a consequence, a $600 model may not be more
> than $600 worth of modelling on a part that should perhaps have had $6000
> spent on it.
>
>
> I understand that for an accurate (real) quotation then all of you very
kind
> vendors would want to see the model first.
>
> As I mentioned previously, I wanted a "ball park" figure; I can safely say
> that I have that now! I will take it up at the next meeting and see pass
it
> on to the next level of command here!
>
> Anyway, I wish to thank the list for the information (no more quotes now
> please) and I may be in touch with some of you once we have decided a
course
> of action.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vern Carter [mailto:vern@3dresource.com]
> Sent: den 14 oktober 2002 17:38
> To: Billett Mike
> Subject: RE: Price idea for a resin/plastic model
>
>
> Sounds like good fit for 3DP. Low cost and fast if all you want is a
> hardcopy model. Send me the file and I will shoot you a price. It is
usually
> less than half the cost of any other process.
>
> Regards
>
> Vern Carter
> Creative Technical Solutions
> 6880 Hillsdale Court
> Indianapolis, IN 46250
> 317-578-3445
> fax 317-578-3446
> www.3dresource.com <http://www.3dresource.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi [mailto:owner-rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi]On
> Behalf Of Billett Mike
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:50 AM
> To: rp-ml@rapid.lpt.fi
> Subject: Price idea for a resin/plastic model
>
>
>
> Hi list,
>
> I'll admit to being a bit of a lurker here and must also admit that I find
> this list interesting and informative.
>
> I am working with a jet motor casing and one of our programmers has asked
> why he cannot have a plastic model sitting on his desk to aid with problem
> solving and so on.
>
> The actual casing that we are working with is over 1 meter in diamter, but
I
> imagine that a model at 1/4 scale would be handy and probably what he
> wants.
>
> To total size of the model would therefore be around 300mm diamter and
300mm
> high.
>
> Is this enough information to get a ball park figure for costing....??
>
> What are we talking about.. $100..... $1000..... $10 000 ??
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Mikey.
>
>
>
>
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