Paul
You bring a good legal point although how you establish the first use I am
not sure. Recreating (Reverse Engineering) by itself is not a crime or
copyright violation -- as long as you don't profit from it. Same with
patents -- so I have been told. It would be nice if robust watermarking was
available to ensure authorship in the first place.....
AR
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi
>> [mailto:owner-rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi]On Behalf Of
>> Paul Finelt - Optimum Online
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:51 PM
>> To: Steven Adler; rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
>> Subject: RE: Mickey Mouse
>>
>>
>> Steve - List,
>> Copyrights are issued to protect original content, artistic
>> or otherwise.
>> The mere fact that you have re-created someone else's
>> original content is a
>> violation of copyright law.
>>
>> You don't have to watermark the STL file or the JPG. Date of
>> first use will
>> determine whether or not as well as who owns a copywritten entity.
>>
>> The issue we all need to be aware of in the RP, reverse
>> engineering world is
>> that unless the entity is in the public domain, you should
>> be VERY careful
>> about re-creating it and distributing that re-creation.
>>
>> Again, BE CAREFUL.
>>
>> Best,
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steven Adler [mailto:adler@a3dm.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 4:52 PM
>> To: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi; Paul Finelt - Optimum Online
>> Subject: Re: Mickey Mouse
>>
>>
>> Thank you Paul...... I was thinking the same thing. Is there
>> a method to
>> "watermark" or "copyright" an STL file......?
>>
>> Why not incorporate a disclosure statement on opening
>> "watermarked" STL
>> files advising copyrights.....?
>>
>> Steven Adler CEO
>> Automated 3D Modeling
>> adler@a3dm.com
>> www.a3dm.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Finelt - Optimum Online" <finelt@optonline.net>
>> To: <A.gerrits@ind.tno.nl>; <rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi>
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 4:53 PM
>> Subject: RE: Mickey Mouse
>>
>>
>> > Anyone supplying an STL of Mickey Mouse or any other copywritten or
>> > trademarked likeness of any character.....
>> >
>> > Don't send these things around. Disney and other owners of these
>> properties
>> > will sue you or at least make your life miserable for a
>> period of time.
>> >
>> > Even if you think you're just using it for your own
>> purposes. These are
>> > commercial entities with substantial value. The owners of
>> these guys are
>> > serious.
>> >
>> > I know some people that have found out the hard way.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi
[mailto:owner-rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi]On Behalf Of
> A.gerrits@ind.tno.nl
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:49 AM
> To: rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi
> Subject: Mickey Mouse
>
>
> Dear rapid people,
>
> Who has an STL file of Mickey ??
> We want to thank a good relation who would go crazy with a nice prototype.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anton Gerrits
>
> TNO Industrial Technology
> Department Industrial Prototyping
> De Rondom 1, P.O. Box 6235, 5600 HE Eindhoven (The
> Netherlands)
> Telephone (+31) 040-26 50 608, fax (+31) 040-26 50 678
> Mobile (+31) 06-23 11 53 97
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> Look also at
> http://www.ind.tno.nl/en/productiondevelopment/prototyping/index.html
> <http://www.ind.tno.nl/en/productiondevelopment/prototyping/index.html>
>
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>
>
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