Bob,
Actually, Brock Rooney has pointed out that DOS can handle more than 20 files, but the problem really is a DOS memory limit problem and the fact that the Build Station software is a DOS-based program. If more than 20 files are in a build then it will exceed the memory limitation. This means there is no room left to run the program and the system will halt in the loading stage.
RPML,
Okay - some of you may say - this is why we need NT on the 250 Buildstation - and you may be right for several reasons. I just try to remember that the 250 software as it exists today does allow for some flexibility that I miss in my 350 NT Buildstation software, and that combining parts is fairly easy in both Maestro and Lightyear. What we as users should do, is attend our user's conference and communicate those things that we would like to see changed in the NT buildstation software and hope that when 3D does address the build station software on the 250 it will benefit from the lessons learned on the other platforms, just as the other platforms benefited from the lessons 3D learned on its workhorse the 250.
Regards,
Beth
bolson@molex.com on 10/26/99 09:06:55 AM
To: Beth P Israelnaim@BDX
cc: Subject: Re[2]: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear
Hi Beth,
Thanks for the information on why we can't grow more than 20 pcs... Bob
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Subject: Re: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear
Author: Beth@bdrc.bd.com (Beth P Israelnaim) at INTERNET
Date: 10/25/99 10:26 AM
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Beth P Israelnaim
10/25/99 09:11 AM
To: Scott -Scooter- Sutterer <ssutter@pdmfg.com> @ INTERNET cc: Subject: Re: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear The problem with trying to place more than 20 parts in 250 build file is a DOS problem, not a "Lightyear" problem. If you want to have more than 20 files on
a
250 build then you have to combine them. If you have more than 20 the system (at the 250 build station) will come to a screeching halt when it tries to open
the 21st file. On the SLA350, because the build station is NT, it can handle more than 20 files. I don't know if there is a limit, but I do know that I've put way more than 20 and have not had a problem, usually the problem is more in
me manipulating all of the files and making sure they are prepared properly.
Beth Israelnaim
Scott -Scooter- Sutterer <ssutter@pdmfg.com> on 10/21/99 06:20:48 PM
To: James P. Harrison <harrjp@juno.com> @ INTERNET, RP-ML <rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi> @ INTERNET
cc: Subject: Re: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear
I can pull in more then 20 parts but the 250 build station software still can not handle it, So I have to combine parts.
----- Original Message -----
From: James P. Harrison <harrjp@juno.com> To: <rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear
> I tried the auto placement once. I don't think that it optimizes the > smart sweep
> from what I saw. I could be wrong, what are some of your experiences? >
> Has any one else had problems with more than 20 parts on a platform? > What
> does the software do with the 21st part? Delete it or just not build it? >
> Thanks for sharing,
> Jim
>
>
> James P. Harrison e-mail: harrjp@juno.com > Director Of Operations Phone: 954-972-9906
> 3Dimensional Engineering Fax: 954-972-8903
> 2991 N. Powerline Rd. Web: www.3de.net > Pompano Beach, FL. 33069
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:19:34 -0500 York Robert <YORKR@tce.com> writes: > > Thank you, but I want to minimize the y dimension without changing
> > part
> > orientation. Others can do it, but they are using ADVANCED. What > > good is
> > the software if I can't even talk apples to apples with others > > users???
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miller, Michael W [mailto:Mike.Miller3@PSS.Boeing.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 11:10 AM
> > To: 'rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi'; 'York Robert'
> > Subject: RE: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear > >
> >
> > I believe the purpose of "auto placement" is to orient the parts for > > a
> > minimum Y dimension, thus maximizing the Smart Sweep enhancement. > >
> > Disclaimer: Opinions of this particular employee do not necessarily > > reflect
> > those of his employer... not to mention that my other personality > > isn't here
> > right now.
> >
> > Michael W Miller (Mike.Miller3@PSS.Boeing.com)
> > The Boeing Company MS 17-PE B-XT62 > > Propulsion Experimental Hardware 206-655-3289
> > Rapid Prototyping 655-4366 Lab 655-4365 > >
> > > ----------
> > > From: York Robert[SMTP:YORKR@tce.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 8:25 AM > > > To: 'rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi'
> > > Subject: RE: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear > > >
> > > Here I go again....
> > > I can place 20 parts of various shapes in the proper orientation > > that I
> > > desire. When I do an auto placement, my parts get rotated to > > various
> > > uncontrolable positions. I am using the STANDARD install. I have > > talked
> > > with another individual who has the ADVANCED install. He does NOT > > have
> > this
> > > problem. I thought 3D wanted to make this a one stop process. It > > is not
> > > working for me. I must do everything but the slicing in Magics > > RP. I
> > like
> > > Magics, but I want to do this in one software, like the ADVANCED > > users. I
> > > WANT AN ADVANCED LICENSE. I am tired of the excuses and the > > delays. This
> > > is unacceptable. I WANT AN ADVANCED LICENSE. This is very > > frustrating.
> > >
> > > 3D PEOPLE - I WANT AN ADVANCED LICENSE. I have 2 years on the > > system. I
> > > think this is enough. Where did this magical number 3 come from, > > your
> > name.
> > > This is not acceptable. I will continue to ask until I get the > > ADVANCED
> > > LICENSE. You should have some sort of tolerance to this request. > > I do
> > plan
> > > to take the Advanced training, but we are working under a budget. > > Mine
> > has
> > > been cut this year. Please be a "Customer Friendly" provider and > > cut out
> > > this non-sense.
> > >
> > > I apologize to the users of this list for this message, but I feel > > this is
> > > the most effective way to get a response. I have been having > > problems
> > since
> > > my install on 1-July-1999.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Bob York
> > > Thomson Consumer Electronics
> > > Indianapolis, IN
> > > 317.587.5424
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: York Robert
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:45 AM
> > > To: 'James P. Harrison'; KDenton@williams-int.com > > > Cc: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
> > > Subject: RE: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > > Are you having a problem with autoplacement? When I use this > > button, it
> > > flips the parts in all sorts of directions. Most of the time they > > are not
> > > the preferred orientation. I do not know of a way to keep them > > from
> > > rotating either. I must continue to use Magics for this need. I > > hope
> > they
> > > address this in the updates.
> > >
> > > Bob York
> > > Thomson Consumer Electronics
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James P. Harrison [mailto:harrjp@juno.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:44 PM
> > > To: KDenton@williams-int.com
> > > Cc: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
> > > Subject: Re: Small frustrating thing with Lightyear > > >
> > >
> > > Hey Karl,
> > >
> > > I still use Solidview for most of that type of work. I have > > noticed a
> > > few problems
> > > like that. I only use Lightyear to create supports and slice, and > > that
> > > is frustrating
> > > enough.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > James P. Harrison e-mail: harrjp@juno.com > > > Director Of Operations Phone: 954-972-9906
> > > 3Dimensional Engineering Fax: 954-972-8903
> > > 2991 N. Powerline Rd. Web: www.3de.net > > > Pompano Beach, FL. 33069
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:14:52 -0400 KDenton@williams-int.com > > writes:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > I have all but worked out the bad things with Lightyear and > > found
> > > > one other
> > > > item that could be frustrating. After setting up a build that > > had 8
> > > > parts
> > > > on it I went to print the image and info on each part and it > > only
> > > > printed 2
> > > > pages, the first was the image and the second was the data on > > three >
> > > > of the
> > > > stl files. The remaining data never came. I went to the print > > > > preview
> > > > screen and sure enough they did exist yet when I went to print > > the
> > > > remaining
> > > > 2 pages ( pages 3 and 4 in my case) it gave me a message that > > the
> > > > number
> > > > entered was outside the usable range! > > > >
> > > > Has any body else had this trouble? Do we need an advanced > > > > "printer"
> > > > license to go beyond 2 pages? Looking for comments... > > > >
> > > > Karl
> > > >
> > > > For more information about the rp-ml, see > > http://ltk.hut.fi/rp-ml/
> > >
> > > For more information about the rp-ml, see http://ltk.hut.fi/rp-ml/ > > >
> > > For more information about the rp-ml, see http://ltk.hut.fi/rp-ml/ > > >
> >
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