Re: Replacement for 3D Systems Actua

From: thoms@naisp.net
Date: Mon Apr 05 1999 - 05:50:28 EEST


List: I am pleased to report that the 3D Sys. ThermoJet patterns produced
during the Design Engineering Show in Chicago performed very well by our
Direct RP process, producing excellent castings in A356 and 20C alloys.

>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:05:53 -0400
>To: ssutter@pdmfg.com
>From: thoms@naisp.net
>Subject: Re: Replacement for 3D Systems Actua
>
>I should have the results in A356 and 20C alloys by the end of the week.
>
>At 10:49 AM 3/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>Tom
>>Could you please let the group know how the new material works for investment
>>casting. The actua has been a great tool for investment casting. It would be
>>great to hear that the new material burns out as well as the old.
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tom Richards wrote:
>>
>>> I stopped by the 3D Sys booth at Chicago, saw the Thermojet and was told it
>>> prints 400x300 dpi in the y and 300x300 in the x, and at 4 times the printer
>>> length its volumetric output is 3x the Actua. I'll be casting some example
>>> patterns in several alloys. Best regards, Tom Richards, Metallurgist
>>>
>>> At 04:22 PM 3/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>> >Scott,
>>> >
>>> >One of our engineers attended the National Manufacturing Week in
Chicago and
>>> >
>>> >spoke visited the 3D booth, her understanding is the material for the
>>> >ThermoJet
>>> >will not be offered for the Actua. I'm not sure about the software.
>>> >
>>> >Brian T. Pardo
>>> >Sandia National Laboratories
>>> >P.O. Box 5800 MS0958
>>> >Albuquerque, NM 87185-0958
>>> >
>>> >Phone: (505) 844-5079
>>> >FAX: (505) 844-5589
>>> >
>>> >email: btpardo@sandia.gov
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Scott -Scooter- Sutterer [mailto:ssutter@pdmfg.com]
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 1:10 PM
>>> >To: Chris Aiken; rp-ml@ltk.hut.fi
>>> >Subject: Re: Replacement for 3D Systems Actua
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Chris
>>> >Here is what I have heard so far, all of this is second hand information so
>>> >I am not sure of the accuracy. It sounds like the machines speed and
>>> >material strength are the best improvements, plus some enhancements in the
>>> >software to place parts (hopefully the software will be made available for
>>> >the actua 2100) One thing you did not mention in your post is accuracy.
The
>>> >new machine is still 300 dpi. I would guess the new material has less
>>> >overall shrink which should help accuracy. One of my deepest concerns it
>>> >that 3Dsystems will abandon the Actua 2100 by not offering new better
>>> >materials and better software.
>>> >I have added some other thoughts within your post below.
>>> >
>>> >Chris Aiken wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'd like to know what people think about the new ThermoJet Solid Object
>>> >> Printer by 3D Systems. Is anyone planning on implementing large numbers
>>> >> of these machines? Is this the beginning of taking RP out of the labs
>>> >> and giving it to the users much like printers and plotters, or is this
>>> >> machine still to complicated and fragile to release into the general
>>> >> engineering community for every day use.
>>> >>
>>> >> It appears that 3D has improved the speed,
>>> >
>>> >Only if the part is wider then the head on the 2100. From what I have heard
>>> >so far the print head actually jets slower. It is just 3 times wider
>>> >
>>> >> reliability
>>> >
>>> >I don't see any difference in reliability
>>> >
>>> >> and part
>>> >> durability
>>> >
>>> >This I see as the most importance difference
>>> >
>>> >> while reducing the cost significantly.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Most of the price difference is eaten away in the fact that the warranty is
>>> >only 90 days rather then a year.
>>> >
>>> >A half inch of valuable work space has been lost in the y direction
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Chris Aiken
>>> >>
>>> >> --
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>>> >> Harley-Davidson Motor Company
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>>> >>
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>>
>>--
>>####### Scott "Scooter" Sutterer
>>#####\_O Premier Design & Mfg. Co.
>>####/\/> 5988 Mid Rivers Mall Dr.
>>#### /" St. Charles MO 63304
>>### \ Phone: (314) 936-1288
>>## Fax: (314) 936-2528
>># ssutter@pdmfg.com
>> www.pdmfg.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
Tom Richards, Metallurgist

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