especially new or new to you technology, there is a learning curve. Email
apps, fortunately, are not exceptionally complicated. Spend a few minutes to
make your life easier. Most apps can be figured out through exploration and
don't be afraid to ask someone else a question. A few well placed questions
and you might stop thinking about throwing your monitor through the window.
For those of you with news server access, don't forget about the 20,000
newsgroups there that can provide an information forum for anything,
including email, not to mention sending an email to the tech support
department at your s/w publisher. Search the net through someone's browser
or look at your manuals and packaging, there is most certainly some
electronic contact info to be found.
Consider creating a new email address specifically for rp-ml or whatever
other groups you would like to organize better, and re-subscribe.
Finally, for everyone NOT sitting behind a firewall, consider those that are.
If you expect a response or further discussion on your topic, it is a simple
and courteous thing to include your return address in the closing of your
email or consider using a "signature" file - you know those sometimes crazy
little graphics and quotes at the end of some emails?
Anyway, how does that old phrase go? You can't please all the people all the
time?
Why?
#1
Juergen's suggestion 1. is inline with the above, and is a good one and I
feel it is the best. While the others have their merit there are things that
I consider to be negative.
#2.
Migrating to a newsgroup forum offers potential but as someone has already
stated, some may not have acceess to such a group and although there are a
multitude of people with access to internet email, there are not so many that
also have newsgroup access. I will say that I would not look forward to being
inundated with spam from phone sex ads and get rich quick schemes.
#3
A daily digest may be of interest, but this eliminates the immediate response
feature of email. Also, what time of whose day? Ilsang Yoo? Ulli? Me? I
think one of the best things about the exploder, is being able to get a
response right away, not tomorrow or the next day, after waiting for others
to get it, digest it and respond to it and receive the response.
#4
Should such a solution exist this could be handy, but wouldn't this still be
a problem for those without newsgroup access?
Good luck to everyone! FYI, If you need help drop me a line and I will try
to help as long there are TOO many inquiries.
Regards,
Ron Ptaszek
Ron Ptaszek
P & R Precision, Inc.
50495 Corporate Drive
Shelby Township, MI 48315
tel: 810-254-6720
fax: 810-254-0638
BBS/Modem: 810-254-1664
Email: PnRMolds@rust.net
WWW: http://www.rust.net/~pnrmolds/pnr.htm
"Prototype and Production Injection Molds from 3-D for a Decade, Fast and
Reliable"
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In a message dated 96-06-24 17:34:38 EDT, you write:
<< Subj: Re2: rp-ml
Date: 96-06-24 17:34:38 EDT
From: cmca@SNET.Net (Chris McArdle)
Sender: owner-rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
Reply-to: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
To: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
Look, maybe it's easier for some of us than others, but it isn't any more
difficult for anybody than getting Eudora and using it.
And, there are probably other solutions that I personally am not familiar
with.
Rather than have a holy war about how rp-ml _outht_ to do this, figure out
how _you_ can make it work the way it is being done.
Alternatively, someone else could voluntarily publish a digest or whatever,
and we'll all subscribe.
For me, having the mail come in directly is quite convenient, at least at
this stage.
>>In a message dated 96-06-20 22:18:19 EDT, you write:
>>> Subj: rp-ml
>>> Date: 96-06-20 22:18:19 EDT
>>> From: igibson@hkucc.hku.hk (Ian Gibson)
>>> Sender: owner-rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
>>> Reply-to: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
>>> To: rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi
>...
>>Mail programs can be set up differently. My mail (AOL-definitely NOT the
>>greatest) gives me the above "short" header, with a full nasty detail
>header
>>at the bottom of the message. A reply does go to rp-ml, but the short
>header
>>clearly indicates the author....
>
>>Rob Lloyd
>>reml@aol.com
>
>To me, as I sit behind some kind of firewall, the header of your message
>looks like this:
>>From: REML @ SMTP (REML) {rp-adm@bart.lpt.fi}
>>To: rp-ml @ SMTP (rp-ml) {rp-ml@bart.lpt.fi}
>
>As you see, your original address disappeared.
>I know I am not the only one who is suffering from such
>misconfigurations.
>
>Anyway, with over 1000 subscribers and heavy traffic (had over 40 mails
>after one day office leave),
>I suggest:
>1.) To let EVERYBODY write his/her e-mail address below their message, as
>you did.
>2.) To convert rp-ml into a Usenet newsgroup. (PC-based newsreaders are
>now easily available; there is Newsagent from Forte, or you can use
>Netscape news).
>3.) To distribute a daily digest via e-mail
>4.) To find mechanisms that will make it possible to use the full
>functionality of the new rp-ml newsgroup via e-mail, so people with no
>other Internet access than e-mail could participate like in the old days.
>
>Do others want this, too ?
>Is this technically possible ?
>Would the guys in Finland be able & willing to go for it ?
>
>With kind regards, Juergen Bauer
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dipl. Ing. Juergen Bauer, Bremen Institute of Industrial Technology and
>Applied Work Science (BIBA), P.O. Box 33 05 60, 28 335 Bremen,
>Germany,
>Phone: +49/421/218-5595, Fax: +49/421/218-5510, Email:
>bau@biba.uni-bremen.de,
>http://www.biba.uni-bremen.de/users/bau/bau.html
Best regards,
Chris
Chris McArdle
cmca@snet.net
203.853.4961 (vox)
203.853.4971 (fax)
"I have preached the right of the individual to indulge his personal faith
at his personal risk. I have discussed the kinds of risk; I have contended
that none of us escape all of them; and I have only pleaded that it is
better to face them open-eyed than to act as if we did not know them to be
there."
- William James
>>
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